Hwasin: Controller of the Heart
[Who did you share a conversation with today?]
[Was it with someone younger than yourself?]
[Or was it with someone much older than yourself?]
[Who did you share a conversation with today and what was the conversation about?]
[The biggest buzzword of 2013.]
[Is none other than 'The Generation Gap'.]
Just like how public health issues used to be the problem back in the day...
My parents don't really understand, and they often get angry...
- We can’t really express ourselves... - We can't even shorten our skirts.
When they try to explain their beliefs to me...
That’s when I really feel the generation gap and it's very difficult.
[Who did you share a conversation with today?]
[Shall we open up our hearts a little bit?]
I wish there was something the elders and us can bond over.
[Shall we open up a small line of communication between ourselves?]
[The first Tuesday!]
[Incarnation]
Hello, I'm your Tuesday man, Shin Dong Yup.
And I wish to your Tuesday lady, Kim Hee Sun.
And as the word 'Incarnation' states, my name is Yoon Jong Shin.
This is a new talk show where we answer questions
the viewers may have regarding their everyday life issues and concerns.
I think the first guests we have here will help us start the show off the right way.
Our first guests on the show today...
[The four men with unusual and extraordinary spirit and energy.]
They're extremely entertaining people, yet they may be a bit overused.
And they may not have that much to go around either.
- But they are extremely entertaining. - Yes, I can vouch that they're a lot of fun.
- Please welcome today's guests! - Please come on out!
[They are about to make their entrance!]
[Along with today's guests...]
[A subway scene unfolds in front of our eyes?]
Please excuse me for a moment. The items I have to show you to today...
They've recently...
[Right off the bat, starts off with physical gags.]
Today's guests... Lee Su Geun!
Kim Jong Min!
Jun Hyun Moo!
And... Eun Ji Won!
[Korea's representative goofballs have all gathered in one place!]
- Let's all have a seat. - The scale of this show is no joke.
[Why is there a subway scene in middle of the studio?]
[Depending on the weekly theme, the theatrical set will change to fit.]
And I've never seen the MCs sitting so closely to each other like this.
[A really tight-knit talk show!]
Look at the way you're sitting right now. You're sitting so prim and proper!
Since we have to get along as a group, we're sitting closely to do that.
You look much better than when you used to host 'Strong Heart.'
I'm sure you like being around Kim Hee Sun better than Lee Dong Wook.
[Blunt right from the beginning.]
But I prefer Lee Dong Wook.
[Gloomy rain falling on his heart.]
Now these four are known to be the new goofballs of this generation.
- How do you feel about that? - It's not quite there yet, to be honest.
Right? Did we flatter you guys way too much?
You really are so very beautiful.
- You really are so pretty. - Just a goddess.
I met her for the first time back in my 'Inkigayo' days.
- Really? - This is my second time meeting you since.
But you know the saying that there's no trade in years?
[What?]
- What are you saying? - This topic of conversation ends here!
I just brought it up because you totally contradict that saying.
I think the years... The years have been extremely good to you.
- She really hasn't changed at all? - Well, she's changed a little bit.
[A slight change.]
[Right from the start, teasing, complimenting, teasing...]
- That was so many years ago already. - You're saying she's gotten better with time?
When I used to host Inkigayo on SBS, you used to be a part of Sechs Kies.
That really was back in the day.
I remember seeing you a few times and saying hello to you then.
Ji Won prepared something small to help you recall those memories from the past.
What did I prepare?
[Once the word is out, he has to do what he's told.]
[For the sake of Ji Won, who seems to be still hesitating.]
I'll play the role of Moon Hee Joon.
[Moon Hee Joon from 'Jack's Kiss?']
[Why was I ordered to do something like this...]
[Even Idols can't win against the hands of time.]
But did you hear how he volunteered to play the role of Moon Hee Joon?
[Conflicting sides.]
What was that about?
- I think I got the wrong guy. - You do kind of look like him though.
A little bit... Like how No Joo Hyun used to look...
[Kind of looks like No Joo Hyun...]
Can we just say you look like Joo Hyun instead?
Why you scoundrel...
Please just do impressions when you're ready for them.
He's always trying to do impressions.
Even when you tell him not to, he goes all out.
Now that he's come onto the scene, he tries very hard to show us what he has.
- Isn't he the icon of turnovers? - Yes, of course.
- Intents of turnover. - Hope of a retirement.
He's one of the only announcers these days who makes appearances for the money.
Live for the money and die for the money.
- What do you think of Jun Hyun Moo? - Of all the announcers I've seen...
He's the ugliest, isn't he?
Don't you think he's the ugliest out of all the announcers out there?
But I really like 'Lucifer.'
Why don't you sing it for her?
- Why don't you show us? - Without any music?
[Making someone do another act...]
[These goofballs' philosophy: Let’s just do it and see where it leads.]
[How embarrassing.]
[The nation's goofballs are here!]
[No more pretenses seen here!]
[The four goofballs' unstoppable shocking and explosive outbursts!]
[What dominates the hearts of these four men?]
[The four men vs. three MCs: A battle of words.]
[Hee Sun explodes!]
The way we ask our questions is a bit unique.
So why don't we move our seats and you can watch us from the front
and we will ask you the questions.
[The first question]
[Drunk Yoo Jong Shin]
[Drunks one and two, Lee Su Geun and Jun Hyun Moo.]
[A cozy looking couple walking into the subway car.]
Wow... Riding the subway late at night...
I see there are a lot of homeless people.
- The woman is kind of exotic looking. - She's pretty.
[Intent on getting all the uses they can get out of the MCs.]
I had such a great time today.
- What is it? What's wrong now? - Forget it.
Why are you so upset all of a sudden?
You don't love me, do you?
That’s just absurd! You have no idea how much I love you!
That's a lie!
What do you mean, I'm lying?
If I didn't love you, would I be thinking about our trip last summer
and how we stayed out all night ...
You think it makes any sense for us to spend the night together if I didn't love you?
What’s the matter with you? Think about it.
If I didn't love you, all last night...
Keep your mouth shut!
Look at this guy...
When this guy is next to me like this, it doesn't even bother you?
- Why is this guy... - This guy is grossing me out!
[His drunk act is good enough to earn him an award...]
Ugh, seriously...
Who do you think you're touching with that hand?
What’s wrong now? I switched seats. What are you upset about now?
I'm cold! I'm freezing cold!
Don't you see that I'm sitting next to the door?
- I'm freezing! - I know you get cold easily.
I'm sorry I didn't think of that. Let's go sit over there.
I switched your seat again so why are you upset now?
Hey... Can't you see I'm wearing a skirt right now?
What if other people look at my legs?
You think this the time for you to be sitting down?
You should be standing in front of me and blocking my legs!
Seriously, you have no sense!
Okay, okay... I understand. I wasn't thinking, and I was wrong.
Can you just give it a rest now? Why are you getting so pissy?
Pissy?
Do I look catty to you?
- You're speaking way too harshly. - Just give it a rest!
Just give it a rest!
You're getting angry with me, aren't you? Tell me, you're getting angry, aren't you?
I wasn't getting angry...
- But you keep getting pissy... - What? I'm getting pissy?
Are you saying I'm being catty?
- Are you insulting me right now? - No! Sorry... I'm sorry!
Are you saying sorry because you're really feeling sorry?
Of course! I'm saying I'm sorry because I really am sorry right now.
What do I have to do for you to feel better?
Buy a car!
You’re the first man I’ve ever dated who doesn't even have a car!
Call me once you get yourself a car, got it?
- Hey.. - Seriously!
You can't get off right now! You're not supposed to get off right now!
She's alive... She's still alive.
What money do I have to buy a car?
You have to tell me what I did wrong!
What role is he supposed to be playing?
[If you're that curious...]
Throwing a fit no matter what’s being said and done...
All the men watching out there... Dating is hard, isn't it?
When it comes to verbal arguments with their women
why do men always find themselves in the losing end of the argument?
The divine secret of winning an argument against their ladies...
Does it... Even really exist?
[A real life example was given to depict the question being asked.]
Situations like that are truly frustrating.
When the man didn't even do anything wrong, the woman keeps on beating down on him.
Even though he didn't do anything wrong, he had no sense to look out for her.
But it wasn't because he was being bad.
- What are you like, Jun Hyun Moo? - I don’t lose arguments.
I tend to be objective and bring up all the different points.
Really? Why don't you try it?
[Hyun Moo's reconfiguration: Pointing things out objectively.]
What? What’s the problem?
That's not it... Can’t you see I'm wearing a skirt?
- Of course, I can see. - What if other people look at my legs?
- Don’t you think you should... - No one's looking! Not a single person!
Not a single one of them is looking over here.
I'm not looking at them either. I'm sick of them!
He's looking right now!
He's looking at this guy right here.
He's looking over at this man over here. He's wondering what his deal is.
He's not looking at you at all. You're just imagining things.
- He's looking at me because I'm pretty! - No, he's not. Not at all.
- Yes, he is! - You don't look like you used to.
[Immediately banishes him.]
I won the objective aspect, didn't I?
- Yes! I won! - What are you cheering about?
No. What you just did was to hurt the woman's feelings.
- You really hurt her with those words. - You should be careful with your words.
To put it in simple terms, you just degraded your own girlfriend.
You can’t try to win.
In that case... I'll try to do this in the style of Monk Hae Min.
[Monk Hae Min's style?]
[Su Geun's reenactment: Monk Hae Min style.]
A long time ago he told everyone how he reflects upon his actions.
Body... My body...
I'm so very sorry for not having protected you
even though I knew you were hurting.
Wording like that. Words with some depth.
You should be standing in front of me to block my legs. What are you thinking?
I'm sorry I haven't looked out for you
even though I know how angry you are.
Even though I know this man is tired, I'm sorry I have to shove him away.
- Are you really sorry? - Even knowing I'm sorry...
- I wish I could do something for you. - Are you being sincere?
Even though I know that my heart is sincere...
Oh my goodness! He's seriously annoying me!
The way I see it, when it comes to dating in real life...
- I think Jong Min would be the most... - He really is a pro.
He tends to act before he thinks.
You have to put your soul into the apology.
- You have to put your soul into it? - Even though I know Jong Min has no soul...
[Jong Min's reenactment: Put your soul into the apology.]
- Hey, I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. - What are you sorry about?
I'm just sorry.
- What is it that you're just sorry about? - That other people may look at your legs...
That other people may look at your legs...
- What is he talking about? - Other people looking at her legs?
I'm seriously about to sober up.
Why are you angry?
I don't know... I don't want to fight with you.
- Just break up... Just break up with him. - I'll really think about it.
Why did you get angry? Because of someone causing you harm?
- I don't like you. - Me?
You don't like me?
But I still like you.
- That’s a good plan. - Out of all three men, he's the coolest.
The reason being...
He's making efforts to comfort me and make me feel better.
- Really? - Even though I know Hee Sun is lying...
Hee Sun wants to close this up now, but Jong Min wants to keep going.
What's your reason? Because you want to see other men?
[On a roll all by himself.]
But I like you!
Let's talk for a little bit longer. Why don't we go back to my place?
Why are you asking her to go home with you now?
[Starts off with a fight, and ends with an invitation.]
- I felt there needed to be a closing. - Even drunks like me don't want him near.
I think Ji Won would be good at calming her down in that situation.
I was wondering why Ji Won wasn't taking his turn.
- When I did it with all three of you... - Ultimately, it's all about looks.
[Ji Won's reenactment: An argument between men and women]
Look at her. She doesn't want to do the angry act.
[A noticeably difference reaction from all the previous reenactments.]
Even though we know this isn't going to work...
How dare you lean on him!
You still need to get angry at him once.
How can a man be so lacking in manners?
Why? What is this about now?
With all these men around, can't you be a little... you know?
- This one feels real. - It does feel realistic.
What do you mean, other men? This drunk is the only one around.
That’s what I mean...
[Opposing team to the couple!]
[Start over from the beginning!]
Have them start over from the beginning.
[All four men with a distinctively different method of winning the argument.]
Generation gap.
A gap in the way of thinking.
To have a real conversation between people with different mentalities
the heart must be dominated first!
Every week, over ten thousand people will participate in the survey
to answer the every day life questions about themselves
by answering the questions in the surveys.
Answers will be sought out from people all over the country.
Through the use of mobile phones and the Internet
anyone can participate in the surveys, anywhere at any time.
Through simple and diverse methods on the main homepage
real opinions are sought out from people ages 20 to 50.
A refreshing way to close the generation gap and the issues that arise from it.
And now, along with 'Incarnation,' please earn love from each other’s hearts.
- The problem is... Verbal arguments. - Yes, verbal arguments.
- Today's topic is verbal arguments? - Yes, verbal arguments.
[Is it not possible for men to win a verbal argument against women?]
Will men really never win an argument against his wife or girlfriend his whole life?
- Yes. - That’s the question being asked.
Just what is the one divine answer that will allow the men to win at least one fight?
- Everyone here today has a wife... - But this one only has children.
[Since they're such good friends...]
I like jokes like this!
When do you get to see your kids?
[Is Jong Min their first target of the day?]
Doesn’t he have a girlfriend? I heard she was overseas...
- She's not here, right? - She's in Hong Kong.
[When asked the question, he gets completely flustered.]
The reason this topic was brought up, was because of Jun Hyun Moo...
I know everyone else here has a wife or a girlfriend
from all the news or the stories I've heard.
But you haven't told us about your situation...
But out of all of us here, doesn't he look like he'd be first to settle?
Yeah, that's my face.
Outside of all the girlfriends...
Yeah, I'd move in with a girl.
- Do you have a girlfriend? - No, I don’t.
- You don't? - I have a confirmed piece of information...
[A confirmed piece of information regarding Hyun Moo?]
I asked the writers of the show, 'The three idiots...'
One of the writers told us this bit of information.
You sneak into empty rooms to secretly call someone on the phone.
My source is not sure who you're talking to on the phone
but is pretty sure it's not your mother.
You're famous for being a bad son amongst all the other announcers.
[Just who is it that he's talking to?]
I don't have a special person in my life yet.
Are you the type to date more than one person at a time?
I'm not the type to date around.
If there is someone in my life, I like to date her quietly.
So you're saying there is someone you have a good feeling about?
Well, the thing is... The people around me...
There are so many internet searches being done on me lately...
- Why don't we see what they are? - One of them is the parking garage issue.
- The parking garage. - I remember that.
That issue was so totally random and just out of the blue.
It should only be used for parking cars, but he kept going there for other reasons.
I guess that’s what other people thought.
So somehow, the rumor spread...
At some point in their life, everyone's had a date in a parking garage.
- What? Really? - You were on a date in a parking garage?
- You're not what I expected. - Which floor of the garage?
The deeper down the better.
[Hee Sun, you're coming out strong from the very first episode!]
- Kim Hee Sun parking garage... - With your husband?
Excuse me?
- Yes. - Why are you asking such an obvious thing?
That’s such an obvious question.
- And Lee Su Geun... - Yes, I have a very loving wife.
- Yes, I do. - He is seriously so good to her.
[Su Geun famously known for being a very good husband.]
The writers of the show mentioned he always dreams of traveling.
Yes, I'm always dreaming about getaways.
Wait... Is he dreaming about going on these trips by himself?
You told me in the waiting room earlier...
that you were recently vacationing with your family in Southeast Asia.
He said he had a horrible time.
- That’s what you told me earlier. - Are you going to blab your mouth like this?
So about that parking garage...
- I heard it... - You heard it too, right?
Of people ranging from teens into their fifties...
you just need to guess the top placing generation's answer.
An answer given by men about the method
in which how they can win an argument against their wives or girlfriends...
We will now find out what the top response was from those generations.
- It could be this... - What?
That’s enough!
- Saying, 'That’s enough!' - Then the woman will say, 'What's enough?'
Then it'll be like Choi Min Soo's response...
Because I love you.
He is seriously old.
[Just another old boy?]
Why don't you give it a try, Hyun Moo?
When I was in college, I used to fight over this a lot...
I missed a couple of calls from my girlfriend.
It happens sometimes.
I couldn't answer because I was doing something.
But the next time I call, it's 'Why didn't you answer my calls?'
'What’s the point of having a phone if you're not going to answer?'
She'd say things like that.
I could've just said sorry and ended it there
but I got objective and countered her.
I said something like, 'But you didn't answer three of my calls,'
- Asking her why she didn't? - Yes, asking her what her deal was.
'Didn't you say you left your phone inside your purse yesterday?'
And I remember so clearly what she said to me back then.
With how much older you are than me, you're trying to act on my level?
- So she's pulling herself out of the fight. - That is so like a woman to say that.
- That is such a woman thing to say! - You can't counter them objectively.
You can't fight with your girlfriends like that.
You have to end it quickly.
Since they're emotional creatures, you just have to apologize first.
-Saying 'I'm sorry.' - What’s the worst fight you've had?
When one person would get suspicious.
- That is very true. - The girlfriend getting jealous?
- Back when I was younger... - Girls get suspicious of you?
They suspect me all the time.
The reason being, they realize just how attractive I am once they start dating me.
The moment she starts going through the cellphone, that’s when the tragedy starts.
Asking who this is and who that is...
Even though I explain it all to her, she still gets angry.
Just having a girl's name in there is enough to cause problems.
There were times I couldn’t stand it any longer
so I changed the girls' names to guys' names.
On my phone, there's a feature which helps you find things.
What that feature does is...
No matter how I try to edit the call log on my phone...
it still brings up the information of the people I call the most.
Yes, there is a feature like that.
- That’s what she was searching through. - How did she know to do that?
- I don’t know, but she knew... - This is a very recent feature.
- A recent feature? - I don’t even know about this feature.
[Does this mean he recently had a girlfriend?
You just said you don't have one!
- I think he's very smart about dating. - That feature came out a while ago.
- No, that feature is very new! - That feature is only on a smartphone.
- So the thing is... - That feature wasn't on previous models.
Since she kept going through the phone, I edited the call log.
I just edited all the girls names that were on my call logs.
Even though I didn't do anything wrong, I didn't want to explain it to her.
She asked why the names weren't on the call logs but on the feature.
She accused me of deceiving her then.
- Do you go through cell phones? - Yes, I've done it.
You've gone through cell phones?
What would you be insure about to go through a cell phone?
- She could've done it. - Since they love each other.
It's understandable for her to go through the phone of someone she loves.
Then what happens? You just go through the phone log?
- So you go through the phone? - Well, the thing is...
The way you keep asking her is...
Going through a phone is basically sneaking around the person's back...
- We'll say it's sneaking around. - So that’s how we're going to refer to it?
In that case, even though it's nothing
a woman can become even more suspicious.
How I handled that was, even though I was very sorry...
- If you don't touch my phone... - Why can't I? Do you feel guilty?
It's mine, so don't touch it. Just touch yours.
- Since we're together... - You're sounding really brutal!
[Starting off by apologizing, but getting angry all of a sudden?]
- This would lead to a breakup. - Because of how he responded?
He shouldn't have spoken to her like that.
He's too brutal with his words.
There's no yours or mine in a relationship.
- Then let me see yours. - Are we still doing the reenactment?
[He really is an entertainer!]
Since I used to work with Dong Yup... I'm all about the reenactments now.
[All about an entertaining variety act with the very first episode?]
Now that you started doing it, isn't it kind of fun?
I saw her practicing by herself in the waiting room for this.
How about we give it another try?
- Saying that you're sorry. - Yes, saying I'm sorry.
That’s the lesson I learned. Whether I was wrong, or she was wrong
- just say 'I'm sorry.' - End it by saying you're sorry.
I think that might be the answer.
Can you reenact how you apologized to her back then?
No matter, I'm really sorry.
I'll make sure things like this never happen again.
And then, I'd give her a back hug.
Where did that come from?
[A gust of wind from Su Geun's mike!]
- Did you see that? - But his hands were just...
I'm really grateful to Jun Hyun Moo right now because
he reacted by cringing his face even though the wind didn't hit him.
[Impressive reaction!]
Where did that gust of wind come from?
- When that gust came from elsewhere... - I thought the gust came from his mike.
I'm the best at reacting without any sincerity behind it.
I'm the king of pretenses.
'I'm sorry.' That came in at seventh place.
- Out of 1,190 surveys. - So saying sorry comes at the end.
You can't just say 'I'm sorry.'
Saying that could escalate the fight.
[Women who dislike men who apologize just to end the fight?]
Saying that isn't sincere if it's just to end the fight.
I think I know the answer, but I'm not sure if it's from people in their 40s or 50s.
It doesn’t matter which age group came up with the answer.
Men's tears... Are 100% effective.
- Come on... that’s ridiculous. - Is that a challenge?
- Have you ever done it before? - When I confessed my love to my wife...
I chased around after her for six months, but she kept turning me down.
When I told her I'd stop and go away, my eyes started tearing up.
She was touched by my tears and accepted me because she felt I was sincere.
And we once had a really bad fight...
In the midst of our argument, I just got so incredibly angry...
So I started tearing up, and then she suddenly apologized to me.
[His tears dissipated his wife's anger?]
A man's tears do come across as being more sincere than a woman's...
[Verifying his answer?]
- See? - Really?
A man's tears are 100% effective.
But doesn't the man look pathetic when he starts to cry?
If he cried every day, he'd seem pathetic...
But if he teared up out of anger, it would make women realize
the seriousness and sincerity of his feelings.
Can you tell us what it is that you two fought about?
I had some drinks. After having drinks, I got in a cab
and I told the cabbie to take me to the world cup game arena.
- My house was in that vicinity. - That’s right, in Sangamdog.
And the driver really did drop me off in front of the arena.
I fell asleep in the cab and when I opened my eyes, I saw the stadium.
And then I noticed there were about 60 missed calls on my phone.
It was already three o'clock in the morning.
I left the house at around nine at night, and when I woke up, it was almost three.
So it caused a whole lot of trouble.
And when I looked at my phone, I just broke out in cold sweat.
In a situation like this, no matter what I say to her, she won't believe me.
That’s when called her to come get me, thinking she'd believe me then.
- But a woman thinks differently. - I wouldn't go!
She might think I purposely asked to be dropped off there.
And at that point, I sobered up completely.
To make it clear, I was out with Lee Kyung Gyu having some drinks.
I was having such a good time and was in a great mood so I ended up drinking a lot.
And I was in a great mood heading home, but I just blanked out in the cab.
And now that I'm completely sober, she's become even more serious.
If I started stumbling instead, she'd just think I had too much to drink.
But I was just too nervous to even attempt that pretense.
[Suspicious that he may have been up to something else...]
But I was feeling way too sober.
So I just went home and apologized, but she was past the reasoning point.
- So she just told me to get out. - To get out?
- Get out? - That’s not an easy thing to say.
- Because you were in the wrong. - But you know what's funny about women?
There was a time I really left when she told me to leave.
She asked if I was really going to leave, so I just came back inside.
[Listens very well to his wife?]
And when she tells me to get out now, I know that she's extremely angry.
Asking me why we're living together if I'm going to behave like that.
I know that line.
She asked me why we're living together
since I'm too busy out drinking and not picking up my phone for five hours.
So I explained it to her. I said it's a complete misunderstanding.
And I told her where I was, and where I even passed out at.
And I told her how I was laying, and even showed her how dirty I got.
But if the explanation is too detailed, she could get even more suspicious.
She became more suspicious of me because I told her too much detail.
- Would you believe me, Hee Sun? - No, I don't think I would.
So that's the situation I was stuck in.
But she was just coming at me, asking how I could've done it.
- And she was being relentless with her anger. - So what did you do?
Even though I told her to stop, she started calling her family.
Telling her mom she doesn’t think we're going to work out.
Telling her I'm hiding something.
And at that moment...
Because the situation was so wrong, I started getting very angry.
So I ended up getting angry.
'Hey!'
- Were you speaking in Chinese? - That sounded funny.
If a man says it's not, then it's not!
How bad do you think it felt to stand there and explain every little detail to you?
Do you know how humiliating and embarrassing it is for me to confess that I was
asleep in front of the stadium for five hours?
Why can't you believe me? You should be trusting me!
You really think I was off meeting another woman?
I can even get the friend I was drinking with on the phone for you!
I can tell you everything, but why do you keep coming at me without even
believing what I'm saying...
- And then I started crying. - It's like a soap opera.
- You were lucky you started crying. - I wasn’t trying to cry.
But I felt so frustrated and I just found myself starting to cry.
My wife's heart... She was already convinced otherwise and just angry.
And when that happened...
She completely forgot about her anger, and that’s when I realized this magic.
[Su Geun's magical potion?]
[Did Su Geun just reveal a trick for a man to win an argument against his woman?]
[Appealing to the woman's maternal side.]
Appeal to the maternal instinct woman tend to naturally have. Why?
Because otherwise, it's exhausting.
So show her how sad the situation can really be.
So I went to sit next to her with rice and kimchi.
I just sat there and ate the rice in water with bits of kimchi to top it off.
And even though I had the TV on, I kept the volume down really low.
and ate my meal really quietly so that I didn't make any sound.
So you only ate kimchi to appear pathetic?
So that you'd appear sad and pathetic?
- You can't have any meat patties... - No, no other good side dishes.
You can’t have any side dishes, or anything satisfying on the table.
Even being quiet about how you eat the kimchi.
She's listening to see what you're doing, if you're reflecting on what happened.
She didn't ask how you're able to chew and swallow your food?
No, she didn’t. What kind of women are you dating?
[Was he just meeting women with nothing to offer but charisma?]
Even though you're not even married...
And as I'm sitting there eating, she suddenly says 'ugh' and gets up.
She got up to feed you a proper meal?
And then I all of a sudden hear, 'Come down here and eat'.
- What a beautiful ending. - Maternal instincts may be true.
Because when I fight with my wife, she takes care of my meals.
Without even saying a word, she'll open up the fridge
and get the food out and almost throw it at me before she leaves the kitchen without eating.
So whether you eat or not, she puts the meal together for you?
Even though we have a fight at night, she gets me my breakfast before she leaves.
They always take care of the meals.
Why do women always make meals even when they're angry?
Because they think it's their duty as the wife.
- That’s right. - And I'm so grateful for that.
It's like them saying we should do better since they're being good to us.
- So that’s what they're saying? - No, it's not!
They're saying even though we messed up, they're still taking care of us.
- So that we should shape up. - That we're inferior to them?
- I think so. - Is that how it is?
- What is it about? - What are you thinking when you do it?
I don't really make meals for him...
[Hee Sun being way too honest.]
Since I’m not a very good cook, he doesn't really like me to do it.
I guess you’re lucky that way.
So you first start getting angry, then shed some tears and appear pathetic.
- It's the combo of the three. - It's all about the man's tears.
- A man's tears... - But it's not like that for me.
When it comes to tears, I understand if it's shed when in danger...
- But just because you're late... - Jong Shin, I'm sorry, but...
Are you trying to drag this out because I got the answer too quickly?
- Why don't you be honest? - I don't know the correct answer either.
Why can't you answer me honestly? Don’t' you think he's acting fishy?
- No, I'm not! - He's someone who never looks at his scripts.
- He doesn't even know his lines! - How do I smell fishy?
This guy, seriously... Don't believe him.
- He's not someone to be trusted. - I'm on your side!
He really doesn't know the answer.
Tears should be kept and only used in really important battles.
Okay then, should we see what the answer is?
When the situation is really dire, whether you’re young or old...
just show them your tears.
I'm sorry, but can you give us a warning?
If we're talking, can you refrain? Some of that gust went into my throat.
Wind normally doesn't make short hair stand up like that.
But that gust was so strong his hair is sticking up on the side.
Your answer is up there, but it's in 16th place.
- That’s lower than mine. - There's something I agree with though.
I don't say things like, 'When I say it's not, then it's not.'
[When it comes to arguments, expressing the anger is the key.]
But when I get really angry I stress the saying, 'It's not if I say it's not'.
- Your turn. - Say it really fiercely.
- Why don't you take a turn? - Take off your glasses first.
He looks really ugly when he takes his glasses off.
It's going to make my eyes appear really small.
Raise your voice and scream out loud.
[Opposite response. If anything, get really angry.]
[A fierce gust of wind.]
He knows how to handle that gust because he's been hit many times before.
He knows how to handle that gust of wind.
- The way it hit his mouth... - Now that I've experienced it...
The California roll I had earlier really got pushed down into my stomach.
That’s so disgusting.
She says it's disgusting.
- She thinks it's disgusting. - But people don't die of disgust.
[Such a feminine response...]
I'll tell you another story. I was in a car accident in the past.
Do you see the scar on my forehead?
I actually used to be very good looking.
- It must've been a really bad accident. - It was a bad accident.
But as I was lying in the hospital bed, with an IV in my arm
the girlfriend I had at the time got angry because she misunderstood something.
- So she wasn't answering my calls. - Why? What happened?
- What did you do to deserve that? - How many people have you dated?
What did you do that she got angry when you've been in an accident?
- Really? - Especially a bad car accident.
She got angry at someone who almost died in an accident?
Since she wasn't answering the phone, I was really sad in the hospital.
When I was lying there in pain, she wasn't even answering her phone
so I was afraid we were going to break up.
So I took off the IV bag... I'm serious.
And while still in my hospital gown, I snuck out without the nurses knowing
and took a taxi to go see her.
- From Sincho to Jansil. - With the IV still attached?
- Still in your hospital gown? - Still in the gown.
- I felt so desperate and worried. - With all the hospital bracelets too?
Of course, all the bracelets and the tags were still on me.
Are you sure you're not fabricating this story?
I could see the cab driver was nervous because I was still covered in blood.
So I grabbed a taxi with the IV still attached to me.
And I even paid the driver extra because I was feeling really desperate.
And since I knew where she was, I hid in the garage waiting.
With the fluid bag in hand.
I probably looked like a zombie from afar.
I looked really scary sitting there like that.
At least it was just some fluid. A blood transfusion would've been worse.
If it was a blood transfusion, would the donor have to come along too?
Had he been sitting there with a bag of blood in his hand...
But once all that fluid is in his body, it would just be air going into his veins.
- That’s much more dangerous. - I didn't even care about that then.
At that point, she was the greatest love I'd ever had.
I went because I wanted to live, because she was that important.
So then what?
I was sitting there holding the bag, switching it from hand to hand...
I saw her drive into the garage in her father's car, which I recognized.
- As the car was driving in and I was... - Did you get hit by that car too?
That only happens in soap operas.
I was hiding behind a pillar.
And then her father stopped the car and got out.
Then he started searching around for a bat because he thought I was a robber.
He thought I was some crazy person.
I was standing there in the middle of the night in my hospital gown.
There weren't many residents living there.
So the woman must've been rich.
I'm sure that’s why he was dating her.
- You usually find that out first, right? - Yes.
But as he's standing there like this...
No matter how battered I was, my girlfriend could recognize me.
She stopped her father, told him to go in, and came to see me.
Then I told her I came all the way to see her like that
because she wouldn't answer her phone.
But when I think about it now, she looked a little terrified.
I think she just came to see me out of curiosity.
And after that, I couldn't get a hold of her again.
- After that... - What happened?
It meant she already stopped caring about me
but she was so scared, she met up with me a few more times.
But I couldn't get a hold of her after that.
- So there was a problem. - The conclusion I came up with...
When the woman is angry, you can't keep on her and pester her.
Giving her some time and not getting angry is better.
- Give them some time? - Without excuses or getting angry.
So your method of not losing in a verbal argument with women...
is instead of getting angry, take some time apart instead?
[Let’s take some time to think instead!]
Coming from a woman's perspective, that’s the worst thing you can do.
That’s a horrible method.
- Then it's better not to do that? - She's interfering. She's interfering.
- She's interfering to stall. - Are you ready with the answer?
Your answer is to take some time apart?
What if she misunderstands and thinks you want to break up?
- That’s what I'm wondering. - In a way, it's playing hard to get.
- Because I'm at a disadvantage. - That’s not pull and shove, just shove.
- Really? - We're running ten minutes behind.
So why don't we take some time to ourselves?
- If we're going to keep fighting like this... - Then let's take some time.
- Let's take some time for ourselves. - Is there even a meaning to this?
Just what was the reason for your fight?
I'm afraid to do anything.
Even if we spend every day loving each other, it still wouldn't be enough.
So why are we wasting time to fight?
That’s a great answer. Should I mention that too?
What did you say?
Even if we spend every day loving each other, it still wouldn't be enough...
- So why are we wasting our time fighting? - That’s a beautiful saying.
- That is a beautiful saying. - You know that saying English?
What is it?
[Less than a second to respond when 'English' is mentioned.]
- I thought he was good with English. - He is good with English.
Stopping the argument and telling the woman we should take some time.
Your eyes went in.
- Was it even on there? - That answer was at 18th place.
- So it was on there. - I thought it would be higher than 18th.
I think it's still important to take time apart and reflect.
- If the couple fights too often. - I know.
It's basically asking, 'Are we even really dating right now?'
Making the other person feel better after a fight...
Not too long after I got married to my wife
new things happen because you're suddenly living with someone.
And you tend to fight over trivial stuff too.
You could date someone for years and not have a fight until you're married.
That’s right.
I normally don't ever raise my voice.
Then for the first time, I raised my voice and said, 'This is so frustrating!'
- Really? - For the first time.
[An unexpected side to Dong Yup!]
Then she started crying. I made her cry.
She was shocked and started crying.
When I saw her crying, I felt awful about screaming at her
and I didn't know how to comfort her as I saw her crying in front of me.
And I started feeling really flustered and unsure of what to do.
So I asked her if she wanted to go out to a nice dinner
and she screams at me saying she doesn't want a handout.
Then I thought maybe I should buy her something
so I asked if she wanted to go shopping for new clothes.
She responded by asking if I thought she was materialistic.
And she just kept on crying instead.
So I asked her if she wanted to go out and get a new purse.
And she started slowly putting her clothes on as she kept up her crying.
- You're lying! - No, I'm serious.
I just told you the abbreviated version, but this dragged on for a long time.
So we didn't buy the clothes or the purse
and just went out to dinner instead.
Ultimately, we found the right time to make up and talk things out.
So after some time went by
I told her I almost burst out laughing because I found her reaction so funny
but didn't laugh because of the somber atmosphere.
So when I asked her when she felt ready to talk things out...
she said she decided to match the timing when I offered the purse.
Even though we didn't buy it...
In the end, everything turned out okay.
- It's all about the timing. - When a calm person gets mad...
A woman can misunderstand and think his true nature is finally starting to show.
I don't think suddenly flying into a rage when you typically don't get mad is right.
- Would you like to try your answer? - No, I'm fine.
- But you answered the question. - How can I when I already know the answer?
You want me to try my answer when I clearly see that mine is not the right answer?
[You can't pull those acts here...]
You buy your lady a lot of gifts?
- I don't guy gifts to make up. - Then what do you do when you have a fight?
There was an instance I could tell you about, can I share the story?
- Yes, go ahead. - If not here, where else would you tell it?
This is a talk show you're on right now.
Okay, then I'll go ahead with the story.
I had a friend who came in from overseas.
And my friend wanted to go to a club.
A nightclub.
That sounded like fun.
It sounded like fun, but I didn't know what to tell my girlfriend.
- That’s a sticky situation. - That could be difficult.
My friend told me he wanted to go.
He's been a friend of mine for a very long time.
- So you had to go. - I had no other choice but to take him.
But I knew, without a doubt, my girlfriend would hate the idea.
There are no bookings at regular nightclubs.
But nightclubs do have bookings.
The way women view the situation is very different.
That’s just the way it is.
So this is what I told her...
I told her my friend and I are going out and that we may go to a club.
And she told me it was okay.
And once she said I could go to the club, we actually ended up going to a nightclub.
My friend did the booking.
Jun Hyun Moo is famous for doing bookings even at the regular clubs.
[If it doesn't happen, then make it happen!]
Whatever image you have in your head is exactly what goes on.
And so we're hanging out, and then my phone started ringing.
With all that noise around you?
She tells me to come outside.
She's telling me she's outside the club.
- Wow! - How did she find out?
She was in front of the club, not the nightclub!
- The club you told her you'd be at. - What did you do?
So then what?
So I told her that I left.
- I told her I'd already left the club. - But wasn't it loud around you?
When I told her I left, she then asked me where I was.
I told her we were just all hanging out having a few drinks outside.
And then she tells me she wanted to come meet me.
- She's in the investigative mode. - Was she getting a gut feeling you lied?
- I think she did feel something. - If she's in that mode...
So I just told her the truth.
I told her that I was at a nightclub.
That's a manly move.
But all the lies I've been telling her all this time...
Now I had to make her understand why I lied.
From that point on, I had no choice but to be upfront...
You had to explain why you had no choice but to lie to her?
She was really angry at me at that point.
I'm listening to her but I kept smiling, because I smile a lot.
Then she asks why I'm smiling and if I think this is all a joke.
Asking if I went out to meet up with all these other women.
- I knew she'd be saying all that stuff. - Of course.
And that's when I start keeping a straight face.
Is it even possible for you to do that?
- I'd apologize to her while smiling... - And she kept screaming about your lies.
I said, 'Give it a rest.'
You're scary!
That’s very different from how you usually are.
Yes, that’s totally different.
I tell her very firmly to give it a rest. And when I say that...
That’s when most women start to feel their emotions being swayed.
At that point, she started getting a little flustered.
- That's when she weakens... - It's okay. Tell the story.
- She was starting to weaken then. - Because she was unsure.
- You have to seize that opportunity. - How?
I have to make her come to me and step into my embrace.
Make her come into my territory.
Make her come to my home round.
- 'Home round?' - You mean home ground?
Your home ground is your territory?
- So that’s when... - That must be one very small space.
They probably have to squeeze in sideways.
From the top of my head to the tips of my toes
I have to pull every bit of knowledge I have on relationships.
Men and women are different.
I ask her if she knows why I lied to her.
There are many reasons for lying.
But the most important thing is intent.
I didn't want to hurt her feelings or my friend's.
My only intention was to make everyone happy.
- Which resulted in lying. - So my good intention led to the lie.
Not too long ago, that thing... um...
- When are you getting to the point? - Soon, soon.
When is that knowledge of yours going to start coming out?
- So when I looked in the magazine... - What magazine?
A science magazine.
[Ah... A science journal?]
Is that what you do when you're fighting?
- You're saying you looked in the magazine? - I looked in the magazine.
- This somehow sounds erotic. - How can this sound erotic?
- How can a science journal... - When did you last see your husband?
It hasn't been that long since she's been weaned off the breast either.
[This is all because of Jong Min’s knowledge.]
The science journal tell you there are two types of human brains.
- Two types of human brains? - A man and a woman's.
- It means they're different. - Men and women have different brains?
There was a survey done on this.
Do you by any chance know doctor Steven Hawking?
Who's Steven Hawking?
A genius physics scientist from England.
- Do you know what that genius said? - What did he say?
That women are life's greatest mystery.
[Women are life's greatest mystery!]
[I gift you my greatest knowledge!]
I'm sorry, but can I get a piece of paper and a pen?
Women are... the greatest mystery.
This genius did study after study and research after research...
-And he's saying he can't figure women out.
[Even a genius can't figure women out!]
Even though he's done all that research, he still couldn't understand them.
He says he still doesn’t get women.
Even Steven Hawking can't figure women out.
- He can't understand them. - He doesn't know how to solve them.
He says he can't understand them.
And that women can't understand men either.
- So men have to just endure it. - What in the...
What are you talking about right now?
We just wanted to hear the story about you going to the nightclub!
[Why is Steve Hawking being mentioned in this conversation all of a sudden?]
We're different.
Is that why you went to the nightclub?
Yes, I did go!
- I went, but... - Yeah?
I went to the nightclub because of her.
He says he went because of her?
Are you crazy?
How is he planning on explaining things to his girlfriend like this?
How can you say you went because of her?
Because I didn’t like the thought of you pissy and angry.
What about my friend who came to visit?
And if a better woman comes along, and I just cast you aside.
Do you think that would be a given?
What is he saying?
[No one seems to be able to interpret his explanation.]
Explain?
- The reason for choosing my loyalty... - That’s the reason why you lied?
- Yes, that’s right. - Then what if your girlfriend says...
'If you had just told me, I wouldn't have cared.'
'If you had just been honest with me, I would've been fine.'
'You could've just told me the truth, Jong Min.'
That’s true.
But you wouldn't have been happy about the whole booking part.
Do you know when the most difficult time in a person's life is?
Are you role playing as if you're still talking to the girlfriend right now?
It's when you let your imagination run wild.
Where is he and what is he doing right now?
Letting your imagination do that is tough.
- Useless imagination? - Yes.
- The useless imagination... - What you're saying is true.
There are a lot of good messages hidden in his talk.
- That’s a good point. - I didn't want her to imagine that.
- I only want to give you good thoughts. - But I trust in you.
You trust me? Then give me your trust now too.
It's over right there.
Wow, you're a genius.
How much do you think Hee Sun wanted to wrap things up for him like that?
[MC Hee Sun's smooth moves.]
Explain everything in an objective manner.
Can you tell us what your final answer is?
The answer is to be objective and explain your intent.
[Shaking in fear of being blasted by the gust of wind.]
He's nervous because he doesn't know when he's going to get blasted.
Tell her what your intentions were and that everything was for her own benefit.
[First place answer among those surveyed in their fifties!]
- Look up there. - It's up there, it's up there.
- Why did he get blasted when it's up there? - It is up there.
- It's the top answer amongst the fifties? - It's actually a number one answer?
Who pushed it? Who pushed the button?
[The spirit of Dr. Steve Hawking was with him.]
The reason being is we're all people.
So this is the type of conversation people have in their fifties?
- Then it means you're in your fifties. - He's more mature than we had thought.
- He really is a genius. - Hee Sun, have you ever heard of that?
Have you ever had your husband tell you he just can't understand women?
No, men don't know. I don't think men will ever know.
- I think men are much more simple. - Men are very simple.
- All the men are similar in that way. - Do you ever have marital fights?
Of course, we do. Not having any fights would be weirder.
What do you fight about?
We fight over very trivial things.
Like... putting things back where they belong.
And how the toothpaste is squeezed.
- Really? - Squeezing the tube from the middle.
And not putting the cap back on.
And using my toothbrush.
You share the same toothbrush?
What man out there look at the color of the toothbrush when they're drunk?
So it's when he just grabs whatever he can just to brush.
Your husband seems to be a little spotty with his train of thought.
[Or it could be because he truly does really love her.]
The answer... 'Talk things out objectively.'
Letting one another know what was good and bad about everything.
They say things like that can only be learned through experience.
They have much more knowledge from their experience.
In the case of someone like me, since the days and nights aren't clear...
I think there are a lot of those instances in our career.
She'll ask me to sleep with her...
And my response is that I'm not tired, so how can I lay there to sleep?
Just lay there and keep your eyes closed!
I have to be sleepy to sleep.
- You should at least pretend to sleep. - How can I pretend to sleep?
I'm not sleepy to even lay in bed!
One of the things we women say is, 'Close your eyes. You'll get sleepy.'
You're right. That’s very true.
How is it that everyone has the same issue?
The first place answer amongst the teens is very shocking.
- Top answer amongst the teens? - You'll find it very shocking.
It's not like they beat each other, right?
Is it checking everything with the camera on their phones?
Taping the whole fight on camera?
- It's the era of smartphones. - That would be shocking.
You can record without making any sound these days, right?
- Yes. - That’s right.
You’re asking me to talk about that all if a sudden?
- The teens... - You said it's shocking?
It is shocking, but shall I give you a hint?
- Already? Giving us the hint already? - Tell us something helpful.
- What if it gets harder after the hint? - But the teens... The teens...
You have to know this about teens to answer it correctly.
It is the time for vitality and youth.
Teenage years are full of vitality and youth.
They just go for it and do it, don't they?
It must be that.
That must be it.
It's a method I used to use when I was in college back in the day.
First... when I used to get into arguments, this is what I used to do.
When it seemed that it wouldn't work using words...
After just spewing it out, I blocked her with a kiss.
You can think of that while fighting?
- That was my method of ending the fight. - But that’s really wrong.
You could get cut by doing something like that.
Get cut?
[What is that supposed to mean?]
When she's not in the mood...
What is he saying?
[Nonstop laughter without even being able to say anything.]
Kids these days prefers action over incessant chatter.
But no matter how much people love each other
when they're that angry, wouldn't they not want to touch?
That’s what I'm saying.
I'm sure that wouldn't be welcomed, and she'd initially shove him away.
- Yes, she'd shove me away. - But it's more...
[Jong Min said earlier that it's dangerous for women to use their imagination...]
Is it easier for women to get over their anger with a kiss?
Or would something like a hug be better?
I don't think a hug would be appropriate for a situation like that, but something...
- Something more aggressive... - Just grabbing the woman?
Grabbing her aggressively and...
Haven't you ever seen that in a movie?
Have you ever experienced something like that in real life?
- Yes, I have experienced it. - Then does it make your anger go away?
- Your anger dissipates, doesn't it? - Yes.
In one of the surveys I've seen...
It said being touched while angry is really offensive to the person.
I wouldn't like getting over my anger in that manner.
When you first try, they do refuse initially.
She'd say, 'What are you doing?'
But as she's asking me what I'm doing, it's not very convincing.
As the woman pulls her hand back to slap the guy as she refuses him
he'd grab her by the wrist and swoop her up to kiss her.
What kind of movies do you watch?
For example...
Why do you keep making me so mad, and doing things like this...
Why are you being like this?
You have to block him better than that.
- I'm going to go with that. - I think that’s going to be it.
- I say during a fight, that's bad. - It is not the right idea?
If they're in their teenage years, I think it's possible.
And now we'll verify the answer.
Shutting her up by kissing her.
It's the right answer!
Lee Su Geun just got blasted.
Why am I the only one getting blasted when there are five of us up here?
Because you look funny.
They tell the girlfriends they love them or that they're pretty
or suddenly kiss them to stop the girls from any further arguing.
I think that is very plausible.
For them to behave that way during fights means they've already had their first kiss?
If they hadn't even shared their first kiss... That can't be their first kiss, right?
Your son isn't far off from that point in life either.
- That’s right, you do have a child. - For me, if anything else...
People in their twenties and thirties can't treat dating too casually.
Teenagers appear to be just some innocent kids...
When it comes to teenagers arguing, it can't be about anything serious.
It's over trivial things such as why one didn't call the other the previous day...
You know they probably fight over pencil lead and things like that.
[His idea of innocence amongst teens is things like school supplies?]
Why did you buy the 0.7mm lead when I told you to buy the 0.5mm lead!
The lead is too faint! I told you to buy something darker!
It could happen. The fights would be over trivial things.
But don't you think that adults would rather like something like this?
Because they touch less and less...
But people in their fifties could end up fighting more if the touching increased.
I think women in their fifties could want that.
- That’s what I mean. - But I don't think the men would.
They're too objective at that age.
Now that I think about it, I think the teens and the fifties are total opposites.
Yes, they're way too different.
They're very different things.
There's no need for talk in teenage years, but need for lots of talk in their fifties.
As someone in his forties...
I'm really envious of the ambition of those in their teens.
But it's said that our country really suffers from generation gap issues.
During the voting time, or any other time...
The dynamics between the young people and their elders is so totally different.
They're saying that it's causing a problem in society as a whole.
Even though this isn't a huge matter...
I didn't realize how different teens were from adults
- They're way too different. - Yeah.
I think it would be nice for them to slowly start to get to know one another.
This could be off topic a bit...
My wife always tells me how important a wife's position is.
Even as I was about to come here today...
She told me to think about why it is that she's so important to me in my life.
There are five things men and women think about when they get older.
Do you know what it is for women?
Daughter, money, health, friends, and saunas.
Those are what women think about. The five things men think about are
spouse, significant other, wife, the mistress, and the mother of his children.
It means men realizes that when they get older...
all they have left by their side are their wives.
And with most men, when their wives are happy and smiling at home...
- The world just seems so much better. - It makes you happy, doesn't it?
But when they're frowning at home...
- No matter how good work is going... - You're so totally right!
Things just don't feel right then.
You're right.
I have a personal request to make of all the wives that are out there.
No matter how angry you are, please be kind during meals and bedtime.
[It seems he's been waiting all day just to say that!]
When my wife calls me to eat in a sweet voice, the food tastes amazing.
If she just says, 'Eat your food,' I feel bad.
And when she wishes me goodnight...
When she is sweet like that, it makes me feel happy and at peace.
If she doesn't say a word, it's the most uncomfortable bed ever.
And it makes me uncomfortable when eating too.
But still, if you've been fighting right up to that point...
When you're screaming at each other...
Some people just speak coldly like that even when there's no fight.
- No way... - Yes, there are.
You just don't know because you don't ever cook dinners.
Even if you take a look at my mother, she screams for everyone to come eat.
But if you sweetly say, 'Time for dinner' instead
it really makes the people who are eating feel extremely good.
It puts people in such great mood. With just one word and the intonation...
I believe the fate of a man can change by those small factors alone.
Thank you and see you next week.
How do you call your husband down to the dinner table?
What do you call him by?
- Honey, sweetie, hey... - Sweetie... and hey?
'Hey' when you're a little annoyed?
What do you think you normally say to him from your recollection?
Honey, would you like to have some dinner?
- I bet that dinner will taste like honey. - You believe that? You believe her?
But the truth is, he never comes down when he's called to dinner.
Yeah, men tend to be like that.
I bring out the soup while it's still boiling
and burn my fingers just so it doesn't get cold. I bring out the soup while it's still boiling
and burn my fingers just so it doesn't get cold.
and I tell him, 'Honey, it's time for dinner!' Then he says he's coming. and burn my fingers just so it doesn't get cold.
and I tell him, 'Honey, it's time for dinner!' Then he says he's coming.
And I'll just hear a lot of rustling going on.
So I'll call him again and tell him the soup's getting cold.
You can just heat it back up.
But he'll still be doing his own thing, smoking a cigarette or something.
Men can be like that at times.
Instead of saying 'Eat', I'll tell him to 'Shove it!'
- Shove it down? - You tell him to shove it?
But you mean it in the nicest way?
I'll start shoving things towards him then.
Watch. If you're husband is lying down, and you tell him to eat...
What would that make us? We're men and we're adults!
- No, you know that’s not what I mean. - We need to be manly in our own way.
You expect us to come running?
We can't get dinner ready in just five minutes.
It takes a minimum of 30 minutes.
You could be getting ready to eat that whole time.
Then why not tell us in advance?
Then we'd be ready to come out by then.
We'd be mad if the food isn't ready since we've been called to dinner.
Why even call me down if it's not even ready yet?
Let me tell you what I'd do in that situation.
I'd give him his food
and even though I'm hungry, I wouldn't eat and go sit in my room.
As I serve him soup with the rice
he's already started his dinner, so half the rice is already gone.
- As I'm standing there ladling the soup... - You should've had it already on the table!
- Why wait that long to serve the soup? - Do you think women are your servants?
Do you think women are your slaves?
[This is how men and women are different from one another...]
Why not just put the rice in the soup from now on?
- Just put the rice in the soup bowl from now. - Make it a rice and soup combo.
Ji Won, do you not eat meals at home?
I can't remember what I even ate at home.
[Can men ever win in a verbal argument against their wives or girlfriends?]
I'll give you one very definitive hint.
The first place answer for those surveyed in their 20s, 30s, and 40s are the same.
They're the same?
When I was in my twenties, in an attempt to appear more manly
to confirm my love for her, I, in a way, became self-deprecating.
- Saying things like you're not good enough? - I'm not good enough.
Saying that it's his fault. No matter what it is, he's at fault.
[Always taking the blame.]
- Like, 'Not making enough money'... - That’s right.
If you come out like that, it makes them feel bad.
Telling the girl that she's the reasoning for my being...
And that I'm still lacking so much.
There's this thing I've done at times when I try to sound self-deprecating.
As if declaring my love for her was the wrong thing to do.
That you shouldn’t have confessed to her?
That you shouldn't have even liked her.
That’s the worst sort of groveling!
'If you had never met me...'
-'You'd be living well by now.'
'If you met someone better than me, you wouldn't be arguing.'
Telling her that it's all my fault because I lack too much in everything.
[Telling her that everything is his fault.]
[Inciting a guilty feeling from the woman?]
Blaming it on himself...
- Taking the blame upon himself. - Okay, 'Everything is my fault!'
But that answer was pretty high up there.
- That answer came in at fifth place. - Fifth place.
- If I was to give you a hint... - Yes.
Why did you hold hands with Hee Sun during the filming?
Being a comedian is my job.
It was much funnier when I grabbed her hand right at that moment.
Kim Hee Sun has a husband herself.
Her husband says he understands.
So why am I made to feel like a criminal?
- Why can't you be more understanding? - You didn't do it because you wanted to?
Of course, that isn't the case.
And what else? What else is there?
What else is it you're feeling bad about right now?
Are you going to go out to that dinner?
Wow, I really don't want to go, but all the writers are saying that
it's the opening of the show and it's important for me to go.
- Turning the story around? - Correct answer!
No matter what questions are asked...
Answer every single question as honestly as you can.
But if he over-explains, it could feel like he's hiding something.
That’s the most frequent answer given by those who's fought a lot.
Sincerely listening to the other person and answering then just as sincerely.
The fight could be over other reasons.
The reason why women usually fight is over what the man did the night before.
They're asking the man to tell them exactly what they did and when they did it.
Don't they know that when the man is home with them?
The more honestly you answer the question, the bigger the fight can become.
- Man has to avoid answering the question. - Okay, the correct answer!
Answer the question honestly and sincerely!
[First place answer of those surveyed in their 20s, 30s and 40s!]
- I think we got the question right. - I think we got it right too.
No matter what the question is, do your best to answer it honestly.
Seeing that makes me realize there needs to be trust between men and women.
- That's a wise statement. - That’s a nice saying.
There needs to be credibility for there to be a long lasting trust.
Thank you for stating the obvious.
Every generation is different.
But when beliefs from those generations are combined together, it's very nice.
'What you just said to me doesn't make sense!'
'But I will tell you everything you want to know so just ask whatever you want.'
And start explaining things. When things drag out a little...
You tell them you love them, and lean in for the kiss.
A combination of all three methods?
50s, 40s, 30s, 20s...
Mix it all together and end it with the teens.
I think this method would work too.
Give the woman alcohol
so the point of the fight becomes forgotten.
I'm seeing the true nature of Hee Sun.
[Idiots. I've never once lost an argument to a woman before. Want to know the secret?]
[Just don't get yourself a girlfriend.]
[If you don’t fight, you'll never lose either.]
Dear viewers...
We will now go into our second question!
[The second question.]
[The place where second question takes place is...]
[A bar.]
Isn't that Hyun Moo? Why is he up there?
[The main lead of this reenactment is Jun Hyun Moo.]
Is everyone here? I hate people that are late.
Of course.
In the course of a career, dinner gatherings are most important.
- Is this our new hire joining us? - Yes.
- How are you doing at work? - I'm working very hard at it.
The truth is, as I'm sure you all know...
- He is so skilled to begin with! - True. That’s true.
At his previous job
the company did a good job of training him.
And after they cared for him
just because we offered to pay him the smallest bit of extra money
he totally cut them off and just quit.
- He's very precise about things like this. - So this is the guy?
- Yes! - No, it's not like that, Supervisor.
No, that’s a misunderstanding.
- Wait.. - Why?
His skin...
How can he have such great skin for someone of his age?
- Were you born with that skin? - My skin does tend to be clear.
That’s what I mean!
- His skin is... - I guess you don't know this
but Jun Hyun Moo wasn't born with this skin.
But every dime he earns, he invests it in himself.
He even goes to the best dermatologist money can buy.
Even everything he wears is all designer label.
He doesn't save a dime, and everything that he makes
he puts it into himself to take great care of himself.
- It's not like that, Supervisor. - But seriously...
I don't know if I should be saying this in front of Hee Sun...
- What is it? - Tell us!
He was rumored to be extremely promiscuous at his old company.
He had a ton of woman, but...
There's never been any nasty rumors!
That means... Come on, that’s some skills!
- No, that’s not true! - You had a lot of women, but no rumors?
Hee Sun, that’s a misunderstanding. I'm a very clean and upright man.
No, this is for real.
[Supervisor Shin happily airing all his dirt without any malice behind it.]
Excuse me, but I need to go to the restroom.
Hyun Moo, I forgot. There was something I heard!
I heard he's a great singer, and just as great of a dancer!
- It's understandable why women like him. - Why don't you show us something?
- Give us a show! Give us a show! - Give us a show, Hyun Moo.
- Then I'll sing a recent popular song. - Okay!
I had an experience like that before.
What is that?
[Attempting to make a whole series of humiliating Jun Hyun Moo.]
Stop it! Just stop it!
I absolutely hate that song!
Why don't you sing something fun and upbeat.
- Yes. - Supervisor, I...
- Don't be shy! - Come on, show us something!
[The result is devastating!]
More animated! Put more energy into it!
The people labeled as 'Seniors.'
Why is it that they're so tactless?
It's not like the new people can come right out and say they don't want to.
They have no choice but to listen to the requests since they're 'Seniors.'
Requests by the seniors that they’d desperately like to refuse...
What are some of these requests?
[A round of applause for Hyun Moo's participation.]
I really had to go through situations like these.
- This is really humiliating. - Yes, it's humiliating.
I've had these moments.
These are the type of things that newbies are ordered to do.
[Just less than three hours ago, Su Geun ordered it done himself.]
[As soon as the word is mentioned, someone is ordered up again.]
- He's very good at dancing. - Why don't you show us something?
- Excuse me? What... - What kind of songs did you sing?
[Without even another introduction, they go right into another reenactment.]
[Doing it properly this time!]
We prepared something together. We'll all dance for you.
[However...]
[Their rhythm is a joke!]
[How often has he been ordered to dance?]
[With impromptu timing, they even finish up the dance.]
That was pretty good.
There are situations like this. The reason being...
If there are seniors around...
When someone new makes a debut appearance
even though I've never seen it for myself...
When it comes to dancing, Kim Jong Min is the man.
He will now show you a hilarious show. Kim Jong Min... Comic dancing... Cue!
Yeah, making them feel burdened.
I was recently at someone's 70th birthday party.
One of the mothers suddenly tells me how much she enjoys
one of the voices I make in front of all those people.
I felt really uncomfortable at that time.
One, two, three, four! [Going straight into reenactment.]
I don’t know about at that moment, but hearing it now, it's really strange.
- Really. - Isn't it weird?
For the first 12 years after I made my debut
people would ask me to talk my gibberish.
- I was asked to do my 'Hello' line... - Can you do that line for us right now?
- What? - Can you do it for us just once?
- I just want to see it once. - I've never seen it before!
It's not even worth seeing. It's really nothing.
I'd say, 'Hello. Can I sit down here for a moment?'
[Ah... we shouldn't have asked him to do it.]
[A very awkward closing.]
[Pretending to slap Su Geun across the face for making him do it.]
[An extremely primitive joke.]
You're really good at that pretend slap.
You have to practice it a lot before you can do it like that.
[A real sounding slap!]
[I'm older than you!]
You can't hit someone older than you.
[The thing most hated to be asked to do?]
As before, from teens all the way up to people in their 50s
give us the most popular answer from those generations.
- This is... - The earlier reenactment...
I sympathize with that 100% because I've been through it.
I think singers go through that a lot.
I've had a lot of those moments too.
But are you more comfortable with your seniors or the juniors?
- I'm more comfortable with the seniors. - He's extremely good to his seniors.
He has extremely good manners, and I've never seen him make a mistake.
It's just me that he curses out.
- What do you mean, curse? - We're close, so it's okay.
Why do you insult Lee Su Geun and feel you can treat him like that?
- He's still older. - I don't do that.
Even though I may act like a brat when we're shooting a show...
- But in real life... - He has great manners.
Then you're more uncomfortable with juniors?
If anything, I don't know how to treat those that are younger than me.
But you curse me out all the time.
But you and I are always working together...
Why are you so startled?
That right there... That is the height of strategy.
[The opposite of his intelligent older brother.]
- Why are you getting so startled? - I thought you were mad at me.
Why are you so jumpy?
If anything, people who are younger...
I feel like I have to be a role model and act better around them.
I used to work for a corporate office.
And with the corporate people, when they get to a management position...
they really like to have conversation with people much younger than them.
So they go online to memorize the latest humor they can find.
They go crazy over things like that. They try really hard at it.
For example, 'Do you know the word to describe an ice cube dying?'
It's called 'Die-bing.' (Play on words with death and shaved ice.)
- What is that supposed to mean? - Ice and bing...
This is the likely response, but you have to burst out laughing instead.
Do you know what you call salt dying?
[What is it?]
- Jukyeom! (Play on words of bamboo salt.)
[Entertaining play of words...]
That’s funny, funny. Did you hear that what he said?
When you asked what salt dying is, Kim Jong Min says, 'Die salt.'
Die salt?
[His 'home ground' knowledge is really making its way through.]
[All the manager wants is to get closer to his subordinates.]
You know that word, 'Heol' that kids say all the time lately?
Even my kids say that all the time.
I think some of the older people learned to say that word.
[The popular catch phrase assuming a new face.]
You really are 'truly sad.' (Word play.)
They take their time learning the catch phrases and they're usually old by then.
There are still some elders who says, 'Banga-Bang.' ('Glad to see you.')
Hi you!
You... The way you're dressed today truly is spectacular. (Old phrase.)
(Jjeom = awesome.)
[The older generation making the effort to keep up with popular phrases.]
Some people are mixing up their speech patterns.
They can't truly say the words how they're meant to be said.
Jjeom-sae... ('Awesome.')
- They're learning against their will. - Tell us more manager jokes.
There are so many to choose from. What do you call a frozen duck?
What is it?
Un-duck. (Word play, also means 'hills.')
[That’s pretty funny!]
- Things like that drove me crazy! - I think they're funny.
[A total chaos.]
It means that they're interested in humor.
It's all jokes that you can find on the internet.
There are hundreds of these jokes. Then they memorizes these jokes.
And without any notice, they start blasting them out.
Tell us another one. That hill joke was funny.
- I know one. - What?
Look at how much she's enjoying this!
What do you call a TV that’s angry?
- Angry? - You know what it is?
Wait... Don't say it. Don't tell me what it is!
Give us a minute.
[Want to answer the question for some reason.]
- This is turning into... - The TV is angry.
Yes, it's angry. It's very angry.
- It's very angry. - A lot of anger.
- Do you know what it is? - I don't know.
CCTV... (Word play.)
This is what they used to do.
- CCTV? - This is the humor they were after.
- CCTV... - He smiled though.
- With Jun Hyun Moo... - I used to work at a corporate office.
You're kind of burning the bridge since you're never going to see them again.
But you were nice to them while you worked?
I used to laugh at them all the time.
[A total fake out acting while he used to work at the office.]
Even though it's funny to the joker, it's burdensome to the audience.
If the person saying the joke is laughing, how is the listener not supposed to laugh?
- And if you don't laugh then... - They'll remember you.
You'll truly be in trouble then.
- Of course. - Real trouble.
- Since they know who you are... - I guess you didn't find it funny?
- No, I didn't really... - You must like working in a rural office?
And then you're transferred down to the rural office immediately.
I'm serious. This is for real.
If they decide they don't like you, they send you away.
- They abuse their rank. - Okay, time for the answer.
Forcing people to laugh at their lame jokes.
[Fail.]
That didn't make the list.
Someone I didn't think I was very close to
tried to lure me by saying he had a very good tip for me.
- Yes, there are those situations. - Out of the blue.
It was a manager that I didn't think was all that personable.
Suddenly, he tells me he knows someone who's a master with the stocks.
- A stock master? - Some Master Choi in Seoul somewhere.
He told me this was going to be big, and I wasn't to tell anyone about it.
When you two aren’t even close?
It's going to be released soon, and will triple within three months.
[Top secret information no one else knew about.]
He said he'd let me know in four months, then I should sell it.
That’s what he told me.
A very large sum of money for me at the time, I just trusted him and gave it to him.
But...
He told me it was going to hit it big sometime in May...
but that stock wasn't even being traded in the market.
It wasn't even being traded, let alone rising in value.
After that, he couldn't meet my gaze and kept avoiding me.
I didn’t hear anything from him during May, June, July.
And in August
the market crashed and my money fell down in third of its value.
And since it wasn't being traded, you couldn't even sell the shares.
It wasn't being traded, it wasn't selling.
I bet he didn't buy any himself.
- He either didn't... - He did but some.
Or the way I see it, you ended up buying his shares.
You ended up buying his shares.
- What? - He was looking for someone to dump them on.
That way he could recoup some of his own money and make extra.
- That’s when... - Things like that happen often.
This guy was in a bind, and he had to sell his shares to someone.
[The first place answer that Su Geun is thinking of is?]
There's a guy names Jung Jong Chul.
At that time, the group he was in was skyrocketing and super popular.
- They used to rule the world of comedy... - Yes, along with Park Joon Young.
And one day, he came up to me and said, 'Su Geun, come here.'
'I know that you're struggling, so I'm telling this to you only.'
- Who are you speaking to? - I'm just talking to whoever I want.
- That’s what his voice used to sound like. - Yes, you're right.
He asked me how much money I had saved.
I told him I had no savings, and I only had about 500 thousand won.
Then he told me to look into getting a loan.
So I took out a loan and somehow scraped up about three million won.
By taking out a loan?
Then he told me he knew a guy and I should call him an buy these shares.
At that time, I bought those shares at 380 won per share.
- Per share. - 380 won per share?
- It can't go down much more than that. - 380 won per share.
So I bought them for 380 won per share.
The next day, it went down to 360 won.
A week and then some days goes by, and it went down to almost 140 won per share.
It went all the way down to 140 won.
But I still kept faith and didn't call because I felt awkward about it too.
Do you know how low it fell to?
It went all the way down to 40 or 60 won.
I felt so frustrated, so I called him.
'I bought those shares because you told me to buy them.'
'But they fell to 60 won per share.'
And his response to me was, 'You didn't sell the shares?'
[How can this be!]
He told me he sold them after two days.
And he was saying how he didn't think to tell me about selling.
He himself really didn't know.
Then he asked me what I had left.
I didn't even have 500 thousand won left to my name.
He told me to sell all the shares, saying I shouldn't hold on to them.
So I sold them. After I sold them...
After I sold the shares, there was a huge turnaround.
- No! No! - That can't be!
One of the biggest regrets of my life...
All of a sudden, someone took something over and there was some rustling in the kitchen...
and it went all the way up to 16 thousand per share!
So he did give you a good tip.
It was a great tip, and I shouldn't have called him.
- It went up by an unbelievable amount. - How many times is that?
- If that was 3 million won, what’s that? - If you multiply that number by...
If you calculate that out, it turns into 300 million won.
If you multiply that again...
[The human calculator who is faster than a machine!]
In that case, it would be almost 200 million won.
- In which case... - Did you just see him?
- The way he does math... - I thought I was watching a computer.
Why were you getting so excited when it's not even your own money?
I have a lot of old scars from the stock market too.
The worst people in this world
are not the ones who say bad things about you or anger you...
but it's people who get your hopes up when they won't ever come true.
- He's right. - Dreams that can't come true?
That is what you call a fruitless dream.
Don't you think that would be on the list of answers?
- Oh Shin Dong Yup... - Is that what he thinks?
Giving false hopes to new hires.
Then what Jong Min said is true.
Saying things like, 'There's a promotion coming up...'
- Talking about promotions. - Giving them false hopes.
Mentioning to them how they heard some good stories about them?
Introducing the juniors as someone who's going to be in a certain position soon?
Then the current managers or presidents
- will start to look at them as competition. - And start being wary of them.
And they feel uncomfortable.
How about this? 'He could be your manager someday.'
This is Manager Kim.
Fluffing them up that way.
And when that happens, rumors start to spread.
And then the management will start to think the new hire is after their own position.
[The senior's behavior that is extremely unhelpful in real life!]
Even though they pretend to care for you, in reality...
I think he would've done very well in the corporate world.
[Is that a compliment or an insult?]
What’s that supposed to mean?
- The correct answer is... - Correct answer?
The boss telling you that he has a good tip for you even though it's false information.
[Next Week]
[Juniors who feel burdened by their seniors.]
[What a relief to have thought of this!]
[Kim Hee Sun pulling one over on Shin Dong Yup.]
This is the first time seeing it in my life.
You think just because you do that, it takes care of everything?
[The goofballs are going all out!]
What’s the truth here?
Variety shows destroy ideals.
[The dangerous roads freelancers travel.]
[Uncomfortable senior-junior MC's.]
Hwasin!
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It keeps coming out. Who's controlling this?
Pay attention!